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Arbiter - Treble Bass Fuzz Face

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2008, 16:13
by Professor SourTone

Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2008, 17:21
by MoreCowbell
Sadly, I used to have one of those but didnt take pics. Thats excusable I guess, since I wasn't building pedals back then.

Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2008, 18:16
by analogguru
:hmmm: What I am figuring is if the potentiometers are 25k LINEAR as claimed or Logarithmic what would make more sense in the configuration used.

analogguru

Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 23 Apr 2008, 11:05
by DiscoFreq
Some pictures here:
http://filters.muziq.be/model/arbiter/treblebass

But only of the component side, not solder side...

Maybe I have higher resolution versions at home

Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 14 Sep 2008, 11:16
by Kinki fuzz
More photos, but still no solder side :cry:

Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost  [schematic]

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 12:17
by peps1
Kinki fuzz wrote:More photos, but still no solder side :cry:

Schematic & solder side!
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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 12:35
by Electric Warrior
Here's the unit the schematic is based on: http://dam.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=818

More photos here: http://www.tcgakki.com/items01/tc016569.html

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 13:28
by peps1
Used the issue 1 fuzz face screw holes as a scale reference, as I assume it the same enclosure.
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71mm x 43mm

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 13:55
by Electric Warrior
That font is far off. Try Futura medium :wink:

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 22 Jul 2010, 21:47
by Electric Warrior
peps1 wrote:Used the issue 1 fuzz face screw holes as a scale reference, as I assume it the same enclosure.


The circuit board was a bit too large for the Fuzz Face enclosure. Notice how they had to trim a corner to make it fit in there :mrgreen:

Don't know if you realized it, but they kept changing the enclorsure. The different types differ mostly in the shape of the part that contains the jacks.

The red one on ebay is like the first type of Fuzz Face enclosure. This one is like the third type:

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But here's an odd thing: All the Fuzz Faces with that kind of enclosure (most BC183 ones) are labled Dallas-Arbiter, not just Arbiter.
All the Fuzz Faces with the earlier, second type of enclosure (most are NKT275 ones) are labled Dallas-Arbiter as well.
Weird, huh? :hmmm:

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 22 Jul 2010, 22:46
by sinner
Electric Warrior wrote:
The red one on ebay is like the first type of Fuzz Face enclosure. This one is like the third type:



EW, will you tell me more about enclosure issues? First type, third type... what's the differences?

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 22 Jul 2010, 23:20
by Electric Warrior
Here's all four types in chronological order:

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The first and fourth look very similar at first glance, but the edge at the bottom of the segment that contains the jacks is much sharper.

I haven't seen any Treble and Bass Faces in a second or forth style enclosure yet...

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 23 Jul 2010, 06:56
by Electric Warrior

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 25 Jul 2010, 22:46
by Electric Warrior
here's my attempt at the board

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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 15 Aug 2010, 15:38
by peps1
First batch etched......now I just have to go vintage component shopping :D
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(ones in the post to you Sinner! :wink: )

Re: 1966 Arbiter Treble Bass Fuzz Face

PostPosted: 25 Aug 2010, 20:26
by kaycee
Very nice pics, must have been kept in a cryogenic chamber to look that good! I did try breadboarding this from the schemo in the other thread, but didn't get it to work - I feel inspired to have another go now!

Re: 1966 Arbiter Treble Bass Fuzz Face

PostPosted: 26 Aug 2010, 02:10
by RnFR
MERGED. remember to search first, please.

Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2011, 21:30
by johnnyg
Electric Warrior wrote: I haven't seen any Treble and Bass Faces in a second or forth style enclosure yet...


Looking at the couple of later Arbiter catalogue pages I've found, the T and B face looks to have been dropped by 1970 - so quite possibly there are none in the 4th style enclosure. Certainly the circular 'lump' for a third pot has disappeared in the 4th style enclosure. :wink:

Re: 1966 Arbiter Treble Bass Fuzz Face

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2011, 23:23
by Electric Warrior
Right.
While they had two different castings for the first style of enclosure (one with, one without the lump), there was only one version for the second and third style.
Funny how all versions of the T&B Face seem to bear the Arbiter name. :scratch: :hmmm:

arbiter trebel bass boost

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 06:34
by rustyg
I've recently moved to Canberra Aus & found one of these: the board is complete & all the original pots, jacks & foot switch are there.

But...

Someone has stirred off board wiring. I've found the great pics posted in this forum & was wondering if anyone had the off board wiring for this beast; it looks a bit odd. The board has a -ve grd to the case but it looks like the input jack switches the battery & the foot switch runs +9 to the board input when it's off line.



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