Arbiter - Treble Bass Fuzz Face  [schematic]

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Arbiter - Treble Bass Fuzz Face

Postby Professor SourTone » 22 Apr 2008, 16:13

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Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

Postby MoreCowbell » 22 Apr 2008, 17:21

Sadly, I used to have one of those but didnt take pics. Thats excusable I guess, since I wasn't building pedals back then.
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Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

Postby analogguru » 22 Apr 2008, 18:16

:hmmm: What I am figuring is if the potentiometers are 25k LINEAR as claimed or Logarithmic what would make more sense in the configuration used.

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Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

Postby DiscoFreq » 23 Apr 2008, 11:05

Some pictures here:
http://filters.muziq.be/model/arbiter/treblebass

But only of the component side, not solder side...

Maybe I have higher resolution versions at home
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Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost

Postby Kinki fuzz » 14 Sep 2008, 11:16

More photos, but still no solder side :cry:
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Re: Arbiter Treble/Bass Boost  [schematic]

Postby peps1 » 21 Jul 2010, 12:17

Kinki fuzz wrote:More photos, but still no solder side :cry:

Schematic & solder side!
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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby Electric Warrior » 21 Jul 2010, 12:35

Here's the unit the schematic is based on: http://dam.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=818

More photos here: http://www.tcgakki.com/items01/tc016569.html
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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby peps1 » 21 Jul 2010, 13:28

Used the issue 1 fuzz face screw holes as a scale reference, as I assume it the same enclosure.
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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby Electric Warrior » 21 Jul 2010, 13:55

That font is far off. Try Futura medium :wink:
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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby Electric Warrior » 22 Jul 2010, 21:47

peps1 wrote:Used the issue 1 fuzz face screw holes as a scale reference, as I assume it the same enclosure.


The circuit board was a bit too large for the Fuzz Face enclosure. Notice how they had to trim a corner to make it fit in there :mrgreen:

Don't know if you realized it, but they kept changing the enclorsure. The different types differ mostly in the shape of the part that contains the jacks.

The red one on ebay is like the first type of Fuzz Face enclosure. This one is like the third type:

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But here's an odd thing: All the Fuzz Faces with that kind of enclosure (most BC183 ones) are labled Dallas-Arbiter, not just Arbiter.
All the Fuzz Faces with the earlier, second type of enclosure (most are NKT275 ones) are labled Dallas-Arbiter as well.
Weird, huh? :hmmm:

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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby sinner » 22 Jul 2010, 22:46

Electric Warrior wrote:
The red one on ebay is like the first type of Fuzz Face enclosure. This one is like the third type:



EW, will you tell me more about enclosure issues? First type, third type... what's the differences?
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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby Electric Warrior » 22 Jul 2010, 23:20

Here's all four types in chronological order:

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The first and fourth look very similar at first glance, but the edge at the bottom of the segment that contains the jacks is much sharper.

I haven't seen any Treble and Bass Faces in a second or forth style enclosure yet...
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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby Electric Warrior » 25 Jul 2010, 22:46

here's my attempt at the board

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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby peps1 » 15 Aug 2010, 15:38

First batch etched......now I just have to go vintage component shopping :D
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Re: 1966 Arbiter Treble Bass Fuzz Face

Postby kaycee » 25 Aug 2010, 20:26

Very nice pics, must have been kept in a cryogenic chamber to look that good! I did try breadboarding this from the schemo in the other thread, but didn't get it to work - I feel inspired to have another go now!
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Re: 1966 Arbiter Treble Bass Fuzz Face

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Re: Arbiter - Treble/Bass Boost

Postby johnnyg » 05 Mar 2011, 21:30

Electric Warrior wrote: I haven't seen any Treble and Bass Faces in a second or forth style enclosure yet...


Looking at the couple of later Arbiter catalogue pages I've found, the T and B face looks to have been dropped by 1970 - so quite possibly there are none in the 4th style enclosure. Certainly the circular 'lump' for a third pot has disappeared in the 4th style enclosure. :wink:
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Re: 1966 Arbiter Treble Bass Fuzz Face

Postby Electric Warrior » 05 Mar 2011, 23:23

Right.
While they had two different castings for the first style of enclosure (one with, one without the lump), there was only one version for the second and third style.
Funny how all versions of the T&B Face seem to bear the Arbiter name. :scratch: :hmmm:
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arbiter trebel bass boost

Postby rustyg » 06 Apr 2012, 06:34

I've recently moved to Canberra Aus & found one of these: the board is complete & all the original pots, jacks & foot switch are there.

But...

Someone has stirred off board wiring. I've found the great pics posted in this forum & was wondering if anyone had the off board wiring for this beast; it looks a bit odd. The board has a -ve grd to the case but it looks like the input jack switches the battery & the foot switch runs +9 to the board input when it's off line.



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