Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Tube or solid-state, this section goes to eleven!

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby allesz » 26 Apr 2012, 00:33

Here it is the nano again.
Just remember it was made by me so.... :oops:
It should be louder than a lm386, a full 1 watt :lol:
And being a little little more skilled now, I suspect that a buffer in front of it can only give better results.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

For this message the author allesz has received thanks: 2
HENK (26 Apr 2012, 12:47), rocklander (26 Apr 2012, 01:38)
allesz
Cap Cooler
 
Posts: 525
Joined: 15 Jun 2009, 17:29
Location: Italy
Has thanked: 46 times
Have thanks: 119 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby rocklander » 26 Apr 2012, 01:40

is that seriously a 2 component amplifier? just seems too simple :shock:
world's greatest tautologist ...in the world

Ronsonic wrote:...the lower the stakes the more vicious the combat.

User avatar
rocklander
Old Solderhand
 
Posts: 2887
Joined: 18 Apr 2008, 12:33
Location: Rotorua, New Zealand
Has thanked: 1559 times
Have thanks: 287 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby allesz » 26 Apr 2012, 08:34

Good morning rock!
Well, if you can find a tda 7052, it will be uber simple to check on the breadboard....
I made two actually, and both worked fine (for a 1W amp of course). One went to my bass player and the second became a ruby: the tda is much cleaner and so it is best for bass (expecially for kitchen table jams), the ruby has a nice overdrive when you push it.
Maybe a cleaner amp is somewhat better to test amps....
allesz
Cap Cooler
 
Posts: 525
Joined: 15 Jun 2009, 17:29
Location: Italy
Has thanked: 46 times
Have thanks: 119 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby rocklander » 26 Apr 2012, 09:03

yep.. cleaner is better.. I was hoping for more like 10 - 20 wattis if possible too though.. hmm..


I was thinking about maybe something like this....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25Watt-Class-AB ... 564970532d
world's greatest tautologist ...in the world

Ronsonic wrote:...the lower the stakes the more vicious the combat.

User avatar
rocklander
Old Solderhand
 
Posts: 2887
Joined: 18 Apr 2008, 12:33
Location: Rotorua, New Zealand
Has thanked: 1559 times
Have thanks: 287 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby rizibiz » 26 Apr 2012, 10:38

and this could make it more flexible too... maybe the SBEQ as a preamp, and a cab sim as well and have them switchable..


Exactly. This was my plan too. I built a SBEQ in front of the Tiny Giant in the same 1590BB enclosure. Now it belongs to a bass player friend of mine as I still did not like it.

Image

Perhaps I should have experimented with cab sims. But I lost interest and returned to building the usual dirt boxes :lol:
Tonight or on the weekend i think I'll experiment with the TDA7052 too as allesz got me excited.

For this message the author rizibiz has received thanks:
rocklander (26 Apr 2012, 11:05)
User avatar
rizibiz
Breadboard Brother
 
Posts: 51
Joined: 05 Dec 2011, 09:26
Location: Tremolo springs
Has thanked: 6 times
Have thanks: 23 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby phatt » 26 Apr 2012, 14:48

kurotenshi wrote:Hi, i'm new on the forum (and on the DIY world).
I'm very interested in SS amps because I believe they provide a more, modular way of building your rig.
Explaining, with a TRANSPARENT power amp, such as an SS amp, one can build his own sound with preamps and FX so the power of the rig is completely independent.
Furthermore I believe that there is some way to emulate tube sound within human perception with SS components.

Some one care to comment?



Well even if you know little about electronics you are already ahead. So hold onto that thinking because even some experts still don't get that.
Most players (understandably) assume the mojo is in the OD/distortion circuitry.
OD/distortion is easy to make happen but it's only the tip of the iceberg as Tone shaping is the key and that is where you make or break a good sound. :secret:
That goes for glass bottles as well.
Phil.
phatt
Diode Debunker
 
Posts: 948
Joined: 04 Aug 2010, 06:17
Location: Morayfield SE Qld AU
Has thanked: 0 time
Have thanks: 232 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby phatt » 26 Apr 2012, 14:52

rocklander wrote:yep.. cleaner is better.. I was hoping for more like 10 - 20 wattis if possible too though.. hmm..


I was thinking about maybe something like this....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25Watt-Class-AB ... 564970532d


Why make life hard ?? Just gut a cheap little practice amp. They sell at junk sales for cheap.
Saves the cost of psu, chassis and speaker,,you may even get an opamp thrown in for free. :thumbsup
Phil.
phatt
Diode Debunker
 
Posts: 948
Joined: 04 Aug 2010, 06:17
Location: Morayfield SE Qld AU
Has thanked: 0 time
Have thanks: 232 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby Guilherme » 26 Apr 2012, 16:48

rocklander wrote:is that seriously a 2 component amplifier? just seems too simple :shock:


Check this:
http://www.ssguitar.com/index.php?topic=1630.0

Image

Image

10W x2 (stereo!).

For this message the author Guilherme has received thanks:
rocklander (26 Apr 2012, 20:49)
Guilherme
 
Posts: 45
Joined: 11 Jul 2007, 17:15
Has thanked: 4 times
Have thanks: 6 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby rocklander » 26 Apr 2012, 20:58

phatt wrote:
rocklander wrote:yep.. cleaner is better.. I was hoping for more like 10 - 20 wattis if possible too though.. hmm..


I was thinking about maybe something like this....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25Watt-Class-AB ... 564970532d


Why make life hard ?? Just gut a cheap little practice amp. They sell at junk sales for cheap.
Saves the cost of psu, chassis and speaker,,you may even get an opamp thrown in for free. :thumbsup
Phil.

where's that line drawn? I don't build pedals cos they're cheaper.. I actually like the pedals I build, and in no small part due to the fact that I built them rather than them sounding any better/worse than bought ones. similar logic would mean that we should just buy joyo pedals and stuff the DIY thing :lol:

also, where I live the junk sales start around 6am... to me there's only one 6 o'clock per day and it ain't the morning :secret:
world's greatest tautologist ...in the world

Ronsonic wrote:...the lower the stakes the more vicious the combat.

User avatar
rocklander
Old Solderhand
 
Posts: 2887
Joined: 18 Apr 2008, 12:33
Location: Rotorua, New Zealand
Has thanked: 1559 times
Have thanks: 287 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby phatt » 27 Apr 2012, 09:31

rocklander wrote:
phatt wrote:
rocklander wrote:yep.. cleaner is better.. I was hoping for more like 10 - 20 wattis if possible too though.. hmm..


I was thinking about maybe something like this....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25Watt-Class-AB ... 564970532d


Why make life hard ?? Just gut a cheap little practice amp. They sell at junk sales for cheap.
Saves the cost of psu, chassis and speaker,,you may even get an opamp thrown in for free. :thumbsup
Phil.

where's that line drawn? I don't build pedals cos they're cheaper.. I actually like the pedals I build, and in no small part due to the fact that I built them rather than them sounding any better/worse than bought ones. similar logic would mean that we should just buy joyo pedals and stuff the DIY thing :lol:

also, where I live the junk sales start around 6am... to me there's only one 6 o'clock per day and it ain't the morning :secret:



Ker???
You asked for info on SS power Amp.
I gave an answer.
I never tried to quantify the cost/value/quality/reason of the pedals you build.
Cheers, Phil.
phatt
Diode Debunker
 
Posts: 948
Joined: 04 Aug 2010, 06:17
Location: Morayfield SE Qld AU
Has thanked: 0 time
Have thanks: 232 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby PokeyPete » 27 Apr 2012, 10:05

Damn if this doesn't happen in half the threads on this board!

One guy expresses an opinion in a casual, tongue-in-cheek manner while another receives it as a slap in the face.
My bet would be if the conversation was the same but done face to face, both parties would maintain the same
jovial mood and enjoy the exchange. It's funny how the sterility of print alters the situation.
“No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another
good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err
if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught
only by himself has a fool for a master.”
–Hunter S. Thompson
PokeyPete
Resistor Ronker
 
Posts: 369
Joined: 31 Aug 2008, 02:45
Has thanked: 14 times
Have thanks: 64 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby rocklander » 27 Apr 2012, 10:25

so anyway.. I reckon I'm going to go with this
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15239&p=171442
and add the ruby style headphone jack... seems a good place to start at least.
world's greatest tautologist ...in the world

Ronsonic wrote:...the lower the stakes the more vicious the combat.

User avatar
rocklander
Old Solderhand
 
Posts: 2887
Joined: 18 Apr 2008, 12:33
Location: Rotorua, New Zealand
Has thanked: 1559 times
Have thanks: 287 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby PokeyPete » 27 Apr 2012, 10:51

I have seen several devices for creating 20W, 30W, 40W, even 50W amplifiers over the years. All are similar to the ones
mentioned previously, only with higher voltages and currents and lots more heatsinking. Most of the ones that I can think
of were stereo units. The LM4700 is/was a 30 watt amp chip. I'm sure it's still available on ebay or elsewhere. Sanyo
used to make these types of amps. They were large and flat (made to be bolted to a heat sink), and the pins were made so
as to plug into an edge connector. I'm sure you can find such things if you search for them.
“No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another
good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err
if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught
only by himself has a fool for a master.”
–Hunter S. Thompson
PokeyPete
Resistor Ronker
 
Posts: 369
Joined: 31 Aug 2008, 02:45
Has thanked: 14 times
Have thanks: 64 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby phatt » 27 Apr 2012, 14:31

rocklander wrote:so anyway.. I reckon I'm going to go with this
http://freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php ... 9&p=171442
and add the ruby style headphone jack... seems a good place to start at least.


Well presented and you get a pcb layout an all. :thumbsup
keep us posted on results.
Phil.
phatt
Diode Debunker
 
Posts: 948
Joined: 04 Aug 2010, 06:17
Location: Morayfield SE Qld AU
Has thanked: 0 time
Have thanks: 232 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby rocklander » 28 Apr 2012, 03:02

phatt wrote:
rocklander wrote:so anyway.. I reckon I'm going to go with this
http://freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php ... 9&p=171442
and add the ruby style headphone jack... seems a good place to start at least.


Well presented and you get a pcb layout an all. :thumbsup
keep us posted on results.
Phil.

yup.. I only speak english and a lil "drunken bullshit" so am not sure what the notes in the PDF say (guessing it's german, but the hammer and sickle on the PCB suggest russian affiliation? .. stuffed if I know) but what I've discovered (after etching) is that the PCB is reversed
:slap:
also.. the size seems incorrect for A4 printing (I resized it, but didn't realise it was mirrored until after I etched it).

just a note to anyone else wanting to make it..

will populate it anyway, and either solder the IC sockets to the solder side, or fold the ICs inside out.. that would make for hidden component values so that's gotta make it more mojo filled!
:thumbsup
world's greatest tautologist ...in the world

Ronsonic wrote:...the lower the stakes the more vicious the combat.

User avatar
rocklander
Old Solderhand
 
Posts: 2887
Joined: 18 Apr 2008, 12:33
Location: Rotorua, New Zealand
Has thanked: 1559 times
Have thanks: 287 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby teddybear » 19 Sep 2012, 15:26

could class d convert or mod to class AB?
teddybear
 
Posts: 26
Joined: 14 Aug 2008, 06:36
Has thanked: 0 time
Have thanks: 0 time

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby phatt » 20 Sep 2012, 14:45

teddybear wrote:could class d convert or mod to class AB?

Short answer, NO!
Though if you get something for nothing you can use the chassis and pots :thumbsup
Phil.
phatt
Diode Debunker
 
Posts: 948
Joined: 04 Aug 2010, 06:17
Location: Morayfield SE Qld AU
Has thanked: 0 time
Have thanks: 232 times

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby teddybear » 20 Sep 2012, 17:06

phatt wrote:
teddybear wrote:could class d convert or mod to class AB?

Short answer, NO!
Though if you get something for nothing you can use the chassis and pots :thumbsup
Phil.

Thanks for the answer.

anyone had schematic for 50 or 100W power amp? (class ab)
thanks
teddybear
 
Posts: 26
Joined: 14 Aug 2008, 06:36
Has thanked: 0 time
Have thanks: 0 time

Re: Solid state Amp discussion allowed (of course!)

Postby kleuck » 20 Sep 2012, 20:01

Randall Aïken said :
Q: Is there any advantage to using solder with a 2% silver content?
A: Yes. Silver solder keeps werewolves away from your amp.
User avatar
kleuck
Cap Cooler
 
Posts: 469
Joined: 16 Nov 2008, 00:24
Location: France
Has thanked: 43 times
Have thanks: 31 times

Previous

Return to Amplifiers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 7 guests