Ronsonic wrote:...the lower the stakes the more vicious the combat.
atreidesheir wrote:He should be punched in the vagina.
Ronsonic wrote:...the lower the stakes the more vicious the combat.
atreidesheir wrote:He should be punched in the vagina.
GatesofDawn67 wrote:This is the kind of behavior one expects from Boss or Digi-Tech, but not from a boutique company that grew out of the DIY community. I recommend that each of us contact them and ask them to remember their roots and not screw the REAL little guy, the consumer.
electrosonic wrote:It seems to me that Wambler is protecting the brick and mortar stores that carry his pedals, allowing them to compete with virtual stores with much lower overhead. He might lose some sales to people who would buy his pedals if they were a bit less expensive, but he gains sales from people who try out his pedals in the stores and decide to buy them. That is a business decision plain and simple.
Andrew.
GatesofDawn67 wrote:I am surprised Pigtronix has enough clout to block discounts.
GatesofDawn67 wrote:This is the kind of behavior one expects from Boss or Digi-Tech, but not from a boutique company that grew out of the DIY community. I recommend that each of us contact them and ask them to remember their roots and not screw the REAL little guy, the consumer.
GatesofDawn67 wrote:Brian Wampler has been one of the good guys with his support of the DIY community. I love his pedals. I own an Ego compressor. I can understand that with his success, he no longer has time to support the DIY community. I am happy for his success.
What I am concerned about is their policy not allowing on-line retailers to give discounts. Are they trying to get picked up distributors who sell to brick and mortar's? Are the distributors strong-arming them into this anticompetitive policy? Did some corporate sales dweeb get hired and he put into place this policy effectively squashing competition on price.
These policies hurt the consumer by artificially keeping prices high.
This is the kind of behavior one expects from Boss or Digi-Tech, but not from a boutique company that grew out of the DIY community. I recommend that each of us contact them and ask them to remember their roots and not screw the REAL little guy, the consumer.
CHEEZOR wrote:Ok, let me be the first to say that Mr Wampler is AWESOME for doing this!
Let me explain: MAP pricing was invented to level the playing field so that "mom and pop" stores could compete with Musician's Friend and other online retailers. I worked in a small "mom and pop" store for over 5 years and it was a big eye opener. There were products that Musician's Friend sold for less than we could get it wholesale direct from the company. This is what happens without MAP. I don't know about you, but I like having local music stores. They are usually run by people who actually give a shit about their customers, not just how much profit they can make. Believe me, if they were in it for the profit, they are either retarded or doing something seriously wrong. There is VERY LITTLE profit in the retail music industry and it is very hard to make a living selling music gear. I'm sure some of the people on here realize that if they ever tried to make their own products. I would much rather spend a little more money and support local people that live in my community than save 5-10 bucks and support some huge corporation. MAP prices are a great thing to help support small businesses!
Remember, MAP pricing does NOT mean you can't sell a product for less. As as seller, you can sell a product for what ever the hell you want to (you paid money for it, you own it). It just means you can't advertise it for less.
I would assume that most of you do not own huge corporations, so if you ever try to open your own business then you would see the value in something like this. If people always pay the lowest amount for products no matter what, then you end up with shit like Walmart or McDonalds.GatesofDawn67 wrote:This is the kind of behavior one expects from Boss or Digi-Tech, but not from a boutique company that grew out of the DIY community. I recommend that each of us contact them and ask them to remember their roots and not screw the REAL little guy, the consumer.
For your information, Boss doesn't have MAP prices are most of their products which sucks for local businesses. They either have to charge more than online retailers to make back their money or sell them at the same price as online retailers and basically take a loss. After working at that job, I will never spend money at Musician's Friend/Guitar Center or any other huge online retailer again.
CHEEZOR wrote:Ok, let me be the first to say that Mr Wampler is AWESOME for doing this!
Let me explain: MAP pricing was invented to level the playing field so that "mom and pop" stores could compete with Musician's Friend and other online retailers. I worked in a small "mom and pop" store for over 5 years and it was a big eye opener. There were products that Musician's Friend sold for less than we could get it wholesale direct from the company. This is what happens without MAP. I don't know about you, but I like having local music stores. They are usually run by people who actually give a shit about their customers, not just how much profit they can make. Believe me, if they were in it for the profit, they are either retarded or doing something seriously wrong. There is VERY LITTLE profit in the retail music industry and it is very hard to make a living selling music gear. I'm sure some of the people on here realize that if they ever tried to make their own products. I would much rather spend a little more money and support local people that live in my community than save 5-10 bucks and support some huge corporation. MAP prices are a great thing to help support small businesses!
Remember, MAP pricing does NOT mean you can't sell a product for less. As as seller, you can sell a product for what ever the hell you want to (you paid money for it, you own it). It just means you can't advertise it for less.
I would assume that most of you do not own huge corporations, so if you ever try to open your own business then you would see the value in something like this. If people always pay the lowest amount for products no matter what, then you end up with shit like Walmart or McDonalds.GatesofDawn67 wrote:This is the kind of behavior one expects from Boss or Digi-Tech, but not from a boutique company that grew out of the DIY community. I recommend that each of us contact them and ask them to remember their roots and not screw the REAL little guy, the consumer.
For your information, Boss doesn't have MAP prices are most of their products which sucks for local businesses. They either have to charge more than online retailers to make back their money or sell them at the same price as online retailers and basically take a loss. After working at that job, I will never spend money at Musician's Friend/Guitar Center or any other huge online retailer again.
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