Os Mutantes Fuzz project

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i had to get that out of the way...
always loved the os mutantes fuzz sound, so i found this:

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which of course, meant i had to build one. so i did yesterday.

Updated layout is here: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23239#p229184

other than a couple things in the BOM beneath being mislabeled, the layout itself is built and verified.

used next closest values in a couple spots, 3.9n for 3n, 2.2k for 2.5k , had to make a 3.3m resistor with a 2.2 and a 1m in series, used a 10k trimmer. built initially with bc547's, tried a gamut of silicon, and the fuzz part was great, but the treble boost part shrill and unmusical. i tried it as a hybrid, sounds great with bc109/108 pair, but in that case needs a cap to bleed off the shrill high end. there's quite a bit of tone for such a simple circuit... but i didn't want to deal with that unmusical treble, a shrieky kinda "presence" like on a marshall jcm800.. so i went germanium, with some vintage npn's a freind salvaged from an old thomas organ. that did it. brought the whole thing to life. so... sockets are your friends. i made this so you can use just one piece of SIP socket for both transistors. i used my iron to poke out the one between them just to make it idiot proof.
gotta wait to check the hfe's, my meter is down in the basement with another project. ;)
also added simple standard power supply filtering, a couple diodes, a current limiting resistor and a bleeder and filter cap. since the unit already has a 47u filter cap on board, it's very quiet. i will add a 100u cap right across the power rails at the power jack too, probably overkill but i like fuzz pedals to be quiet as possible when not making some raucous fuckin' noise.
how does it sound? really good. different from almost every other fuzz i've built, with two distinct personalities between the filtered and fuzzed setting. one knob. volume. that's it. perfect for kamikazee studio here.
the treble boost side is vaguely klon centaurish tonally, with a hint of nasal mid sounding very much like an old marshall right on the breaking point, the fuzz side (bypassing the small "filter" cap) is big and wooly like a big muff and has a real nice sustain with a pronounced buzz to it. at least into an overdriven amp.
as with virtually all fuzz, it sounds like poo without hitting a somewhat distorted amp. but add it to a cranked up tube amp... and .... yum.
stupid pedal trick coming soon, for now tho, here's some os mutantes:



if you want the exact kinda sound in this video, use bc108 and 109. socket. experiment. you'll find it.
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this thing very much depends on leakage i think. i tried a bunch of transistors, and the leaky low gain ones reigned supreme.

i can't believe i did this, but i made a total rookie mistake... the 25k resistor on the right of my layout is shown going from collector to output. i screwed up, it needs to be moved to the other side of that 10u cap, or the diode clipper is effectively out of the circuit... and it leaks dc thru when ya turn the knob... :oops: :shock:

total facepalm. :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap:

so... i figured it out and fixed it. when all was said and done, i changed out the 22k resistor i'd had there for 10k, and ditched the 1.5k to ground. that did the trick, and brought it to life. now it even sounds good into a clean amp, and has TONS of balls. very psyched!!! :applause:

here's a CORRECTED and VERIFIED layout. i call my variant the "bat macumba" cuz it SOUNDS like bat macumba. ;)

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pinkjimiphoton wrote:this thing very much depends on leakage i think. i tried a bunch of transistors, and the leaky low gain ones reigned supreme.
Did you end up using germanium transistors in your build?

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yep. no idea what the hell they are, but they're npn's from an old thomas organ. top hats. sounds great.

anybody know where the hell i can find the mutantes octave schematic/CCDB Octave schematic?
munky's site is still there, but the link's no good
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hit a mother lode of cddb designed stuff.... may prove interesting, especially the phaser/flanger
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pinkjimiphoton wrote:yep. no idea what the hell they are, but they're npn's from an old thomas organ. top hats. sounds great.

anybody know where the hell i can find the mutantes octave schematic/CCDB Octave schematic?
munky's site is still there, but the link's no good
Cool!

I'll have to check when I get home, but I MAY have the Octave schematic.

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Here it is, Jimi! I found it!
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jrod, YOU ARE FUCKING GODLIKE!!

AWESOME BRO, THANKS!!

DAMN... this will be a bitch to vero!! lol :mrgreen:
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pinkjimiphoton wrote:DAMN... this will be a bitch to vero!! lol :mrgreen:
hey pinkjimi, a little something for your in-tray courtesy of anders @ gfx.

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thread here:

http://guitar-fx-layouts.42897.x6.nabbl ... 22274.html

best wishes to all at photon mission control!

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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! thanks tabbycat!
haven't been doing much with effects, been building guirars lately. much more expensive frustrating and annoying. never again.

i'm gonnna go back to stompboxes ;)
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