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BEST TONE

PostPosted: 07 Jun 2019, 17:44
by A1full
Hello, someone can tell me how to achieve a 3 band tone control, with this same frequency, which gives the parametric seen in the image.

I want to take it to an anaglogic pedal with a good tone stack

Is there any way to achieve it or imitate it?

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Re: BEST TONE

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2019, 09:45
by FiveseveN
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Your best bet would be a graphic eq pedal and you can tweak the gyrators if the frequencies are not spot on.

Re: BEST TONE

PostPosted: 10 Jun 2019, 03:58
by A1full
FiveseveN wrote:[ Image ]

Your best bet would be a graphic eq pedal and you can tweak the gyrators if the frequencies are not spot on.


ok thanks for answering, but is there any way to achieve that with a tone stack?
I have no idea how to get to those hz with components

Re: BEST TONE

PostPosted: 10 Jun 2019, 05:36
by thetragichero

Re: BEST TONE

PostPosted: 10 Jun 2019, 08:06
by phatt
A1full wrote:
FiveseveN wrote:[ Image ]

Your best bet would be a graphic eq pedal and you can tweak the gyrators if the frequencies are not spot on.


ok thanks for answering,
A1full wrote:but is there any way to achieve that with a tone stack?

Sorry but NO!!!
A1full wrote:I have no idea how to get to those hz with components

Because it can't be done with the passive type tone stacks used in Valve amp circuits. I assume that is what you are asking for?

I agree with *FiveseveN* A graphic EQ circuit will get you close to those shapes. :thumbsup
The Hi Watt tone stack designed by Dave Reeves does a much better job of mid cut than standard circuits found in most FMV brands of amps.

I also assume you are using software to get those tone shapes and likely listening to it over monitors or head phones.
If so,, then that will only work in that instance. Just planting that tone curve into a real Valve amp circuit or pedal board will not magically deliver the same effect.
Studio stuff might sound good but in the real world of live sound is a whole other subject.
Same as bedroom players who use real Amps in confined space at low SPL,,, they get a chance to jump on a stage and crank it up wonder why it sounds like crap.
HTH,, Phil.

Re: BEST TONE

PostPosted: 10 Jun 2019, 16:17
by A1full
phatt wrote:
A1full wrote:
FiveseveN wrote:[ Image ]

Your best bet would be a graphic eq pedal and you can tweak the gyrators if the frequencies are not spot on.


ok thanks for answering,
A1full wrote:but is there any way to achieve that with a tone stack?

Sorry but NO!!!
A1full wrote:I have no idea how to get to those hz with components

Because it can't be done with the passive type tone stacks used in Valve amp circuits. I assume that is what you are asking for?

I agree with *FiveseveN* A graphic EQ circuit will get you close to those shapes. :thumbsup
The Hi Watt tone stack designed by Dave Reeves does a much better job of mid cut than standard circuits found in most FMV brands of amps.

I also assume you are using software to get those tone shapes and likely listening to it over monitors or head phones.
If so,, then that will only work in that instance. Just planting that tone curve into a real Valve amp circuit or pedal board will not magically deliver the same effect.
Studio stuff might sound good but in the real world of live sound is a whole other subject.
Same as bedroom players who use real Amps in confined space at low SPL,,, they get a chance to jump on a stage and crank it up wonder why it sounds like crap.
HTH,, Phil.


I appreciate your response and your explanation, I understand that it will not be the same. But what I need is to make a distortion that sounds a lot like that. It has a cut of means and highs in the right places. That's why I think that achieving it would be a great sound, since then adjusting to the reality of an amplifier speaker, not studio monitors.
I was playing with the tone stack of seymour duncan but I am very far from achieving it with that.

good thanks for the help, I'll keep looking for options