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Postby bradb » 07 Aug 2007, 00:30

sweet, i just added Igloo's last trace cut and the thing seems to work like my original.

I haven't tested the hfe of these AC128s i have in there, but someone has written 83 and 91 on them... Q1 and Q2 respectively

great work Igloo, now i'm gonna box it up!
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Postby modman » 07 Aug 2007, 01:48

Great Brad!

Meanwhile the rest of the web is going fuzz factory crazy: look what I found

Matsumin Fuzz Factory project part 1: introduction, schematic and layouts
Matsumin Fuzz Factory project part 2: populating pcb
Matsumin Fuzz Factory project part 3: enclosure and hardware
Matsumin Fuzz Factory project part 4: finished box

[url=http://www.j-guitar.jp/sea/JG/view_detail/s10073555.html]5 pcs Limited Edition Engraved Fuzz Factories[/list]
The Fuzz Fxxk Tree


here's some more goodies to try:

Here's the new improved Fuzz Factory Settings List 4/12/05:

Atari 7:00 3:00 5:00 8:00
60's Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:00 5:00
Arpegio 12:00 3:00 3:00 3:00
Bonkers Fuzz (1) 2:00 2:00 11:00 3:00
Bonkers Fuzz (2) 1:00 1:00 11:00 3:00
Clean Fuzz 5:00 2:00 11:00 5:00
Clean Up Fuzz 7:00 7:00 5:00 (lower till squeal stops) 5:00
Clean to OD 5:00 2:00 10:00 5:00
Dummy Fuzz 11:00 11:00 5:00 5:00
Dead Quite Ripper 9:00 3:00 5:00 7:00
Electric Beans 7:00 5:00 7:00 5:00
Fizzy Fizz 10:00 1:00 11:00 12:00
Fuzz Bright 1:00 12:00 1:00 4:00
Fuzz Distortion 12:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
FuzzFace71 (1) 12:00 12:00 12:00 5:00
FuzzFace71 (2) 3:00 7:00 12:00 4:30
FuzzFace71 (3) 7:00 12:00 1:00 5:00
FuzzFace71 (4) 12:00 7:00 12:00 5:00
Fuzz Mellow 1:00 12:00 1:00 9:00
Fuzz Splutter 3:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
Fuzz Squeal 9:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00
Hi-Octane 2:00 to 3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
Interference 7:00 3:00 12:00 5:00
Intermodulation 2-3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
IYW 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00
Juice Face 12:00 12:00 12:00 12:00
Krackle Fuzz 1:00 4:00 10:00 2-5:00
Mellow Mud 2:30 7:00 7:00 9:00
Metal Distortion 4:00 10:30 7:00 5:00
Modulated Mud Fuzz 12:00 11:00 5:00 7:00
Modulated Sticky 12:00 1:00 5:00 7:00
Modulated Sticky Fuzz 9:00 3:00 9:00 3:00
Muse-esque 2:30 3:15 5:00 5:00
No-Name Fuzz 1:00 11:00 2:00 7:00
No-Name Fuzz (2) 10:00 7:00 12:00 5:00
OD/Fuzz 7:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
OD Squeal 7:00 12:00 3:00 3:00
Pitch Drop 7:00 12:00 5:00 7:00
Please Fuzz 12:00 7:00 3:00 2:00
Prickly Vexter 8:45 12:15 2:00 4:45 1:30
Psychedelic Crackle 1:00 8:00 3:00 3:00
Punky 2:30 - 3:30 7:00 7:00 5:00
Radio Fuzz 7:00 10:00 12:00 5:00 (play A, lower to taste)
Random Fuzz 1:30 7:00 5:00 4:00 (approx)
Range 7:00 12:00 3:00 12:00
Resonant Fuzz 7:00 7:00 12:00 4:00
Smashing Pumpkins-esque 2:00 9:00 5:00 10:00
Smooth Fuzz 7:00 3:00 5:00 5:00 (lower to mellow)
Soft Fuzz 1:00 7:00 7:00 Variable
Spastic Muff 5:00 7:00 5:00 5:00
Squealer Fuzz 9:00 9:00 9:00 9:00
Squealer Fuzz (2) 7:00 8:00 1:00 7:00
Static / Low 12:00 12:00 5:00 7:00
Stooges Fuzz 3:00 7:00 3:00 5:00
Stylo Fuzz 12:30 12:30 7:00 7:00
Super-Heavy 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00
Sweet Sustain 1:00 7:00 10:00 1:30
Tight and Sweet 12:00 8:00 8:00 5:00
Tiny 10:30 12:00 12:30 9:30
Traditional Fuzz 9:00 7:00 11:00 to 1:00 11-1:00
Traditional Fuzz (1) 9:00 7:00 1:00 5:00
Traditional Fuzz (2) 2:00 7:00 3:00 5:00
Ugly Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:30 2:00
Velcro 7:00 5:00 5:00 2:00
Weezer-esque 2:30 7:00 7:00 5:00
Whale 7:00 1:00 5:00 9:00
What the Fuzz? 7:00 7:00 5:00 5:00
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Postby soulsonic » 07 Aug 2007, 02:52

The schematic on that Japanese site is the shitty one I redrew. How is anyone expected to read that?
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Postby invictus » 07 Aug 2007, 02:56

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sure its not the most neat schematic around but i for one, didnt have any trouble reading it.

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Postby dajm » 25 Aug 2007, 17:16

has anyone had good results with a matched set of germanium transistors from smallbear in their fuzz factory clones ?
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Postby MoreCowbell » 25 Aug 2007, 17:31

dajm wrote:has anyone had good results with a matched set of germanium transistors from smallbear in their fuzz factory clones ?


They should work just fine.
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Postby dajm » 25 Aug 2007, 19:14

thanks, I'll give them a try
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Postby gkaiomenos » 26 Aug 2007, 16:12

i know it's pretty hard to find so lo-gain ac128 in quantities but the old fuzz factories that are the best sounding imo used trannies with hfe in the region of 40. Less than that sounds even better
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Postby JHS » 26 Aug 2007, 19:29

Most AF... are low gain Ge-trannies in the range 40-60.

AC128 are fine, hFE is between 100-140, just alter the R-values to decrease the amplification in that stages.

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Postby soulsonic » 26 Aug 2007, 21:20

I have a bunch of AC128s with gains in the 30 to 60 range. I'm willing to trade them for some Russian germaniums. I can accurately test each one for gain and leakage so you know exactly what you're getting. The Russian transistors I'm most interested in are GT313 and GT308 and maybe GT411.
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Postby bumblebee » 27 Aug 2007, 16:02

modman wrote:
Here's the new improved Fuzz Factory Settings List 4/12/05:

Atari 7:00 3:00 5:00 8:00
60's Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:00 5:00
Arpegio 12:00 3:00 3:00 3:00
Bonkers Fuzz (1) 2:00 2:00 11:00 3:00
Bonkers Fuzz (2) 1:00 1:00 11:00 3:00
Clean Fuzz 5:00 2:00 11:00 5:00
Clean Up Fuzz 7:00 7:00 5:00 (lower till squeal stops) 5:00
Clean to OD 5:00 2:00 10:00 5:00
Dummy Fuzz 11:00 11:00 5:00 5:00
Dead Quite Ripper 9:00 3:00 5:00 7:00
Electric Beans 7:00 5:00 7:00 5:00
Fizzy Fizz 10:00 1:00 11:00 12:00
Fuzz Bright 1:00 12:00 1:00 4:00
Fuzz Distortion 12:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
FuzzFace71 (1) 12:00 12:00 12:00 5:00
FuzzFace71 (2) 3:00 7:00 12:00 4:30
FuzzFace71 (3) 7:00 12:00 1:00 5:00
FuzzFace71 (4) 12:00 7:00 12:00 5:00
Fuzz Mellow 1:00 12:00 1:00 9:00
Fuzz Splutter 3:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
Fuzz Squeal 9:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00
Hi-Octane 2:00 to 3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
Interference 7:00 3:00 12:00 5:00
Intermodulation 2-3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
IYW 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00
Juice Face 12:00 12:00 12:00 12:00
Krackle Fuzz 1:00 4:00 10:00 2-5:00
Mellow Mud 2:30 7:00 7:00 9:00
Metal Distortion 4:00 10:30 7:00 5:00
Modulated Mud Fuzz 12:00 11:00 5:00 7:00
Modulated Sticky 12:00 1:00 5:00 7:00
Modulated Sticky Fuzz 9:00 3:00 9:00 3:00
Muse-esque 2:30 3:15 5:00 5:00
No-Name Fuzz 1:00 11:00 2:00 7:00
No-Name Fuzz (2) 10:00 7:00 12:00 5:00
OD/Fuzz 7:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
OD Squeal 7:00 12:00 3:00 3:00
Pitch Drop 7:00 12:00 5:00 7:00
Please Fuzz 12:00 7:00 3:00 2:00
Prickly Vexter 8:45 12:15 2:00 4:45 1:30
Psychedelic Crackle 1:00 8:00 3:00 3:00
Punky 2:30 - 3:30 7:00 7:00 5:00
Radio Fuzz 7:00 10:00 12:00 5:00 (play A, lower to taste)
Random Fuzz 1:30 7:00 5:00 4:00 (approx)
Range 7:00 12:00 3:00 12:00
Resonant Fuzz 7:00 7:00 12:00 4:00
Smashing Pumpkins-esque 2:00 9:00 5:00 10:00
Smooth Fuzz 7:00 3:00 5:00 5:00 (lower to mellow)
Soft Fuzz 1:00 7:00 7:00 Variable
Spastic Muff 5:00 7:00 5:00 5:00
Squealer Fuzz 9:00 9:00 9:00 9:00
Squealer Fuzz (2) 7:00 8:00 1:00 7:00
Static / Low 12:00 12:00 5:00 7:00
Stooges Fuzz 3:00 7:00 3:00 5:00
Stylo Fuzz 12:30 12:30 7:00 7:00
Super-Heavy 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00
Sweet Sustain 1:00 7:00 10:00 1:30
Tight and Sweet 12:00 8:00 8:00 5:00
Tiny 10:30 12:00 12:30 9:30
Traditional Fuzz 9:00 7:00 11:00 to 1:00 11-1:00
Traditional Fuzz (1) 9:00 7:00 1:00 5:00
Traditional Fuzz (2) 2:00 7:00 3:00 5:00
Ugly Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:30 2:00
Velcro 7:00 5:00 5:00 2:00
Weezer-esque 2:30 7:00 7:00 5:00
Whale 7:00 1:00 5:00 9:00
What the Fuzz? 7:00 7:00 5:00 5:00


Ya know, i printed this list out some time ago and tried every setting and some are identical with a different name but most of 'em just plain suck.

A couple of the ff ones are ok,the psychedelic one and about 3 more are cool but i figure whoever compiled this list has the hots for zachie!
theres decent sounds to be had, but screw the list.

But i find the Ffactory thin as and an awful pedal stock tho, i bought all the hype about it (sucker), got it and knew straight away it needed to be modded post haste.

100uf in and out caps.......... Way better, still....its still not right tho,needs to be rid of the harshness thats in it.
way over rated pedal imho!
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Postby markm » 27 Aug 2007, 16:12

I'm really not a FUZZ guy but, what do some of y'all that are FUZZ people think of this circuit?
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Postby briggs » 27 Aug 2007, 16:24

It's versatile! Real versatile. Nice interaction with your guitar volume too. Worth sticking on breadboard, even if it is just for a play around!
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Postby grolschie » 27 Aug 2007, 21:41

I don't see the fuss with fuzz pedals. They don't seem musical to me. Watching zvex's FF video, I didn't care for any sound that it made. Can anyone help me to appreciate the fuzz pedal?
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Postby madbean » 27 Aug 2007, 21:46

Listen to Eric Johnson.
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Postby grolschie » 27 Aug 2007, 21:59

Really? I remember his "Cliffs of Dover" and "Total Guitar DVD". I loved his tones, but don't remember anything as harsh as a FF. What track is a good example?
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Postby MoreCowbell » 27 Aug 2007, 22:07

grolschie wrote:Really? I remember his "Cliffs of Dover" and "Total Guitar DVD". I loved his tones, but don't remember anything as harsh as a FF. What track is a good example?


You just named one of them :)

Ive never thought of a good germanium Fuzz Face as "harsh".

heres a layout of his rig....

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Postby grolschie » 27 Aug 2007, 22:26

[smilie=a_holyshit.gif] Thanks for that. So the ZVFF is capable of such tones with a strat into a Plexi or FDR?
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Postby MoreCowbell » 27 Aug 2007, 22:30

grolschie wrote:[smilie=a_holyshit.gif] Thanks for that. So the ZVFF is capable of such tones with a strat into a Plexi or FDR?


I didnt say that :)

A good germanium Fuzz Face is capable of it...a Fuzz Factory, well, thats a different beast altogether. Some people say it does classic Fuzz Face sounds, but I really didnt find any truly "convincing" settings. The Fuzz Factory is a cool pedal, but if you want classic Fuzz Face tones, build yourself a germanium Fuzz Face, tweak it, and have fun :)
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Postby soulsonic » 27 Aug 2007, 22:32

grolschie wrote:[smilie=a_holyshit.gif] Thanks for that. So the ZVFF is capable of such tones with a strat into a Plexi or FDR?


Probably not. The Fuzz Factory is a noisemaker box - not something intended for a "sweet tone".

Maybe you should look at my Shizzle fuzz.... it's intended to actually sound good, not be a fuzzy mess.
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