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Earthquaker Devices - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 16:34
by skywise
http://www.earthquakerdevices.com/devic ... portjr.htm

Nice build quality inside. Nothing new to see here but a picture is nice anyway.
EQD_DTJR_01.jpg

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 29 Nov 2012, 21:40
by batteryacidtea
Nice! How do you like it? I'm really interested in understanding how does the tone control works here!

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR  [traced]

Posted: 15 Dec 2017, 20:27
by bugg

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 00:50
by marshmellow
Ever since the Rebote every PT2399 Delay has to suffer from this nonsensical input stage design. Everybody just copies it again and again without wasting a single thought :lol:.

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 08:59
by jrfox92
marshmellow wrote:Ever since the Rebote every PT2399 Delay has to suffer from this nonsensical input stage design. Everybody just copies it again and again without wasting a single thought :lol:.
:| :scratch: :hmmm:
What's nonsensical about it?
Do you just have a problem with input buffers?
The only difference between the Rebote and the data sheet (from what I remember) is a Jfet boost at the input.

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 13:20
by marshmellow
That's not a buffer, that's a noise generator with a NF in excess of 20dB. For a unity gain stage that is just ridiculous (and copied blindly by Mad Professor, Wampler, several Madbean designs, many DIY variations, ...). An inverting stage as a high-impedance input is simply wrong. You either have low impedance, or high noise, choose your poison. The way to go is to use a non-inverting buffer and don't care about the polarity inversion. Which is a bit schizophrenic in the first place considering that 99% of other effects don't care a single bit about this issue. Or you put a JFET/BJT buffer in front of it and decrease the resistors to 10k.

Or you build something that was properly designed from the beginning, like the PT80, the original PT2399 design, or Dirk's contest entry.

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 13:38
by phatt
marshmellow wrote:That's not a buffer, that's a noise generator with a NF in excess of 20dB. For a unity gain stage that is just ridiculous (and copied blindly by Mad Professor, Wampler, several Madbean designs, many DIY variations, ...). An inverting stage as a high-impedance input is simply wrong. You either have low impedance, or high noise, choose your poison. The way to go is to use a non-inverting buffer and don't care about the polarity inversion. Which is a bit schizophrenic in the first place considering that 99% of other effects don't care a single bit about this issue. Or you put a JFET/BJT buffer in front of it and decrease the resistors to 10k.

Or you build something that was properly designed from the beginning, like the PT80, the original PT2399 design, or Dirk's contest entry.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Take Marshamellow's advice,, print that out in RED Bold and refer to it everytime you build a pedal.
You don't need noise gates and other crap if you build them properly,,, jezz the front end of a TS9 with BJT would out perform in a noise shoot out.
Noise is the hidden enemy in pedal design and easy to get caught as it's not obvious to the novice.
Phil.

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 22:49
by snk
Hello
I built and EQD Disaster Transport JR and i like it.
I also started studying other PT2399 designs, and found the Hamlet Delay, where (among other things) it is suggested to put a green LED from PT2399 pin7 to ground in order to avoid clipping the PT2399 input.
Did anyone try it on the Disaster Transport JR ? Would it work the same way ?

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 20:16
by snk
Also, what do the antiparallel diodes to ground do, in the EQD - Disaster Transport JR ?
(Maybe it is a crude limiter for the feedback ?)

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 17:08
by audioguy
What might turn out to be a silly question-
How difficult would it be to add a toggle switch to kill the primary signal, allowing only the delayed signal to pass through?

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 20:50
by Optical
For wet only, disconnect R9

Re: EQD - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 15 Jun 2021, 13:21
by bc108
I'm thinking in build this one into a small veroboard, and add before some Echoplex Preamp.
Is this one more "lo-fi" compared to Deep Blue, or Wampler Faux?

Re: Earthquaker Devices - Disaster Transport JR

Posted: 25 Jan 2022, 17:20
by jeepe
hi,
at tagboardeffectlayouts, Servant07 had spotted an error in the "pedalpcb schematic"...
in this thread: https://tagboardeffects.blogspot.com/20 ... rt-jr.html


Servant07 3 January 2018 at 07:11

Finished troubleshooting on paper, didn't have time to make the changes to my build tonight, but I think I got it with shifting a few parts around. The main things are that R12(47K at IC2 pin 15) on the PedalPCB schematic is missing, and the 10uF above IC2 should go from pin 5 of IC1 to ground (right now its connected to ground on both ends).

(Only the bold part of the message refers to the schematic)

PS:
he also uploaded a vero layout link:

Servant07 4 January 2018 at 05:06

Got it working tonight. Unfortunately I had to add an extra column for the missing resistor at column 17. Here is a link to the new 23 column wide layout: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgvctnhdtqyfmpw/DTJ.png?dl=0