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Pete Cornish - NG-2

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 11:44
by Fuzzer
All right my friends, thanks to an unidentified mysterious cool guy;
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Here we have some Cornsih pedal guts, you can't get to trace shit, but at least you can look at some good pedal porn.

Enjoy;

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 12:00
by ech0es
buffer pcb + fuzz pcb

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 13:33
by marwatt
FUZZER.... please more high detailed photo please .... have you a P2 too?

eventually can you tell me the value of the 2 resistor and what is the blue cap on the out jack?

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 15:43
by silverface
Here's some pics I once found of and older version of this pedal :)

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 16:24
by Fuzzer
No man, I'm sorry, the pedal is not mine, I was just given the pictures by the owner.

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 09:42
by Bernardduur
Wow, Cornish uses Perf?

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 18:36
by Skreddy
I wonder if that cap from the input jack to ground is perhaps a short-circuit protector, so that instead of a full mains current a musician can only be accidentally shocked (via his guitar ground and most commonly a mic stand) through the capacitor instead of a straight wire. It could save a life(?)... This idea is also found in the guitar shielding site guitarnuts.com, where they recommend grounding your guitar hardware via a .33uf cap. This obviously does not protect you from the barrel of the input plug nor the jackplate of the instrument, though.

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 20:06
by earthtonesaudio
Skreddy wrote:I wonder if that cap from the input jack to ground is perhaps a short-circuit protector, so that instead of a full mains current a musician can only be accidentally shocked (via his guitar ground and most commonly a mic stand) through the capacitor instead of a straight wire. It could save a life(?)... This idea is also found in the guitar shielding site guitarnuts.com, where they recommend grounding your guitar hardware via a .33uf cap. This obviously does not protect you from the barrel of the input plug nor the jackplate of the instrument, though.
I wouldn't bet my life on it.

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 20:18
by bumblebee
I have no idea why people pay stupid money for his pedals, they look like shit!

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 20:26
by ech0es
could you post a better building than this ?

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 21:41
by ODwan
Skreddy wrote:I wonder if that cap from the input jack to ground is perhaps a short-circuit protector, so that instead of a full mains current a musician can only be accidentally shocked (via his guitar ground and most commonly a mic stand) through the capacitor instead of a straight wire. It could save a life(?)... This idea is also found in the guitar shielding site guitarnuts.com, where they recommend grounding your guitar hardware via a .33uf cap. This obviously does not protect you from the barrel of the input plug nor the jackplate of the instrument, though.
Hi,
I don't think a cap from input to ground can protect you from electric shock. But maybee that's a varistor? Correctly dimensioned it could provide some protection. Then maybe it's just a RF rejection cap....
Just my .02€!
Greetings,
Timo

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 22:09
by bumblebee
ech0es wrote:could you post a better building than this ?
The build is fine, the box is goddamn awful! Besides there's plenty of us here that make stompboxes built to this quality or higher anyways. Top quality stompboxes are nothing new in the DIY world.

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 22:47
by ech0es
bumblebee wrote:
ech0es wrote:could you post a better building than this ?
The build is fine, the box is goddamn awful! Besides there's plenty of us here that make stompboxes built to this quality or higher anyways. Top quality stompboxes are nothing new in the DIY world.
Yep, but building something for the Mccartney's tour or David Gilmour is something different, no ?
Answer to the demands of these guys is an other dimension.

"Hi, i want a total analog tube buffered multi effect with his own cooling system"
How many guys in the world can do it properly ?

And being able to build top quality stompboxes and being able to build something like this:
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/Sting%27s-Stabiliser1.jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/Lou-Reed%27s-Rig.jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/PMSSET(front).jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/J.Page-1.jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/Example%20 ... rd%201.JPG

is totally different for me

Re: Cornish NG-2

Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 23:32
by Whoismarykelly
ech0es wrote:
bumblebee wrote:
ech0es wrote:could you post a better building than this ?
The build is fine, the box is goddamn awful! Besides there's plenty of us here that make stompboxes built to this quality or higher anyways. Top quality stompboxes are nothing new in the DIY world.
Yep, but building something for the Mccartney's tour or David Gilmour is something different, no ?
Answer to the demands of these guys is an other dimension.

"Hi, i want a total analog tube buffered multi effect with his own cooling system"
How many guys in the world can do it properly ?

And being able to build top quality stompboxes and being able to build something like this:
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/Sting%27s-Stabiliser1.jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/Lou-Reed%27s-Rig.jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/PMSSET(front).jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/J.Page-1.jpg
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/Example%20 ... rd%201.JPG

is totally different for me
I could build a pretty crappy pedal that would withstand that tour no problem. Gear on those tours is taken care of very well. Builders should be more concerned with the weekend warriors who toss their own gear into the trunk and head to the gig. Thats much much rougher treatment than any of the big tours will give.

Re: Pete Cornish - NG-2

Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 00:43
by ech0es
I could build pedal
Yep, but not enough good to be used by these artists and not enough good to make it your own job and live with it
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/client.html

Could you build all of this stuff ? During 36years ? Not only the pedals ! a monkey can build a top quality pedal if we teach him how to do
Pete Cornish build not only pedals: Power Distribution System , Amp Mains Power Distribution Unit , 24 Channel Active D.I. , Mains Power Stabilizer ,12 KVA Isolation Trans. , 50 Amp Auto Voltage Stabilizer etc etc...

Come on, be humble, it's pete cornish !

Re: Pete Cornish - NG-2

Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 00:54
by analogguru
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Re: Pete Cornish - NG-2

Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 01:00
by Whoismarykelly
ech0es wrote:
I could build pedal
Yep, but not enough good to be used by these artists and not enough good to make it your own job and live with it
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/client.html

Could you build all of this stuff ? During 36years ? Not only the pedals ! a monkey can build a top quality pedal if we teach him how to do
Pete Cornish build not only pedals: Power Distribution System , Amp Mains Power Distribution Unit , 24 Channel Active D.I. , Mains Power Stabilizer ,12 KVA Isolation Trans. , 50 Amp Auto Voltage Stabilizer etc etc...

Come on, be humble, it's pete cornish !
Not good enough or not high profile name brand enough? Thats the real difference. Paul McCartney doesn't buy his own gear. He just tells someone what he wants and they go get it.

Pete Cornish is neat and all but I feel no need to be humble over someone who sticks buffers before and after other companies pedals and sells the resulting hideous and oversized pedals for exorbitant prices.

Re: Pete Cornish - NG-2

Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 01:50
by ech0es
Whoismarykelly wrote: Pete Cornish is neat and all but I feel no need to be humble over someone who sticks buffers before and after other companies pedals and sells the resulting hideous and oversized pedals for exorbitant prices.
You can't resume his work by "he sticks buffers before and after", you focus (again!) on the stompboxes but look at all his work!

Ok cornish pedal are not good because :
-hideous
-oversized
-exorbitant price
-use buffers (?!)

Just to know : Have you ever tried a cornish pedal ? Or you just judge it with the inside pictures and the design ? :horsey:

Re: Pete Cornish - NG-2

Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 01:59
by Whoismarykelly
Ive played a P2, SS2, NG2 and a TES. They were neat but not worth the money or the massive amount of space/direct AC they require. Im sure his various other products are cool too but I dont feel the need to fellate the guy for his track record of roadproofing consumer-grade pedals.

Re: Pete Cornish - NG-2

Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 07:41
by Skinpimp
Whoismarykelly wrote:Ive played a P2, SS2, NG2 and a TES. They were neat but not worth the money or the massive amount of space/direct AC they require. Im sure his various other products are cool too but I dont feel the need to fellate the guy for his track record of roadproofing consumer-grade pedals.
I agree....

He works hard , and his stuff sounds good, but I think there are too many people kissing his ass in such a way that it creates the infamous "Hype" over something that really isnt there. He does build some great looking Pedalboards , rigs and other works. But there is NO justification in an average joe paying these prices . there is not $1000 to $3000 worth of tone in a single pedal from anyone.. you pay that kind of money for a rare object.. not tone(from a pedal). Circuits are not rare. However there are "collectable pedals" that are.. But there tone CAN be reproduced.. it is up to the consumer to decide what they want.

Me personally I would much rather invest that money in a new Amp , or guitar.. $3k for a delay.. one more time $3k for a delay.. wow... I just dont think I could be convinced a delay sounds "THAT" good.. rugged build or not.

screw it if he can get the $......... good on him.