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friedtransistor wrote:I agree. I would like to see a verified schematic as well.
Totally, man. All throughout this thread, I see people commenting, "oh yeah, totally an SS-2", with no links at all to where they are getting this information? Is there an SS-2 schematic floating around that no one has posted here? Or is this just some rumor that got started on a forum?
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Post by Intripped »

What i know is that there are strong similarities with this pedal
https://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic ... up#p210475

...that is supposed to be a Cornish SS2 clone

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Post by friedtransistor »

here's a shortcut to the schematic in that other post (thanks to Intripped for that link):
https://www.freestompboxes.org/download/ ... &mode=view
And the one posted earlier in this thread (thanks to MWichni for postihng that):
freestompboxes.org/download/file.php?id=16643
(Copy and paste to address bar. Dunno why no link appear...)

Very similar schematics, me thinks...
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soulsonic wrote:
friedtransistor wrote:I agree. I would like to see a verified schematic as well.
Totally, man. All throughout this thread, I see people commenting, "oh yeah, totally an SS-2", with no links at all to where they are getting this information? Is there an SS-2 schematic floating around that no one has posted here? Or is this just some rumor that got started on a forum?
It is not verified that it is direct copy of the Cornish ss-2 but it sounds very similar. Unfortunately I don't have tend opportunity to compare this pedals.

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Post by fishfude »

So is this the most recent, reliable schem for the cornish: https://www.freestompboxes.org/download/ ... &mode=view

Whats with the Resistor values ending in ''E"? (R10, R11, R24, R22 etc...)?

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Post by MWichni »

This is one way to state the resistor value. For example R24 is 100E which means it is 100 ohm value. The same thing concerns other resistor values expressed in "E" manner.
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Post by Ghandi »

Anybody else thinks the biasing around the second opamp looks a bit odd?

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Post by MWichni »

I can't post the schematic. For some reason "upload attachment" doesn't work for me. I have the corrected schematic. If anyone want's it feel free to e-mail me or send me a pm with a request.

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Post by Blend »

Assuming that the father of this pedal is the distortion mxr + and Randy Rhoads to make up for its flaws used immediately after a eq. and that gives his best on a tube amp, the improvement made SS-2 style and Light Drive is obvious. A month ago I did a bit of healthy experimentation likely missing values and found errors on published schemes so far. I used a MC1458 because it actually contains 2 741 quiet, everything works fine but I feel that it is not 99% mainly on hiking tone, perhaps a different second op-amp is the key? However, the volume and gain controls must be adjusted differently when used on clean channel or crunch, crunch you go with full volume and gain at 0 and has a great shot, on the clean channel volume of 11-12 hours and gain from 0 hours 15. Just as in the attached diagram I used in concert last Saturday with marshall jcm 900 and 4x12 cabinet in 1960 and has performed well flares up the amp beautifully.
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Hi guys, I uploaded the schematic to tinypic.

http://oi68.tinypic.com/8yc46x.jpg

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MWichni wrote:I can't post the schematic. For some reason "upload attachment" doesn't work for me. I have the corrected schematic. If anyone want's it feel free to e-mail me or send me a pm with a request.

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Post by Blend »

In this discussion I keep seeing sent schematic of a puzzle made up of fragments from SS-2, Light Drive and Skrydstrup ODR2, in my scheme published yesterday I mistakenly reversed R3 with R5, but it would be really necessary to define what is missing in a Light correct drive, the last schematic published "Cornish SS-2 Light-drive", I see:
- Improper placement of C15 (from Skrydstrup ODR2?)
- R6, 100k is the value in Light drives
- C3 and C12 are Evox PFR having a minimum value on the market 100pf
- R9, 1M should be the impedance of the second phase input
- D2, is missing as in the photo published on page 1 as an element in series resistance or of another diode.

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karul wrote:
MWichni wrote:I can't post the schematic. For some reason "upload attachment" doesn't work for me. I have the corrected schematic. If anyone want's it feel free to e-mail me or send me a pm with a request.

Best regards,
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I know how it works. When I select the file and then click add the file I get blank site and cannot finish my post in any way...
Blend wrote: In this discussion I keep seeing sent schematic of a puzzle made up of fragments from SS-2, Light Drive and Skrydstrup ODR2, in my scheme published yesterday I mistakenly reversed R3 with R5, but it would be really necessary to define what is missing in a Light correct drive, the last schematic published "Cornish SS-2 Light-drive", I see:
- Improper placement of C15 (from Skrydstrup ODR2?)
- R6, 100k is the value in Light drives
- C3 and C12 are Evox PFR having a minimum value on the market 100pf
- R9, 1M should be the impedance of the second phase input
- D2, is missing as in the photo published on page 1 as an element in series resistance or of another diode.

I will revise that for you and report back during next days. Just too much to do currently.

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Post by The Rotagilla »

Hey guys,

I've been messing around with this circuit and have a quick question. The pedal has a bit of a mid hump I don't really care for, is there a part or parts I can mess with to reduce it?

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Post by bc108 »

A few years later: which is the most accurate SS-2 schematic?

Thanks in advance :-)

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Post by monkeyxx »

bc108 wrote: 09 Apr 2021, 13:58 A few years later: which is the most accurate SS-2 schematic?

Thanks in advance :-)
I built the GuitarPCB version and it sounds good to me. Didn't sound f@#)&d up, sounded about right from the first play.

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monkeyxx wrote: 09 Apr 2021, 14:08
bc108 wrote: 09 Apr 2021, 13:58 A few years later: which is the most accurate SS-2 schematic?

Thanks in advance :-)
I built the GuitarPCB version and it sounds good to me. Didn't sound f@#)&d up, sounded about right from the first play.
Thanks! I'll check that schematic

I've used the effectslayouts.blogspot layout. Sounds really nice. Just too much highs.. and found difference schematics around

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Post by bc108 »

Found this great and usefull tracing of the SS-3 by Aion: https://aionfx.com/news/tracing-journal ... t-sustain/

I've combined both versions:
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Verdict: Now this overdrive sounds AMAZING.
Not fizzy and saturated on highs: gain clarity on bass and mids.
Tone potentiometer brings a nice Bass to Highs response without scoop the mids and (again) saturated highs like before.
A bit more and better distortion/compression.

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