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On first intention, just put a jumper instead of the 18k resistor in the first opamp feedback loop (the one in series with the 1Meg pot). The minimum gain will then be merely a slight boost.

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jymaze wrote:On first intention, just put a jumper instead of the 18k resistor in the first opamp feedback loop (the one in series with the 1Meg pot). The minimum gain will then be merely a slight boost.
Alright, I'm gonna try that, thanks!

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Post by ebuprofen »

hey guys, what would be a good value for pot instead of 22k resistor in HP mode? so I could adjust the amount of boost? 500kB?

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Post by Branimir »

Trying to find info...

What type of capacitors are use in OCD V4?
Electrolytics are tantalum? All of them? What about the others?
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Theres just one capacitor (one of the 10uF's) is Tantalum, the others are eletrolytics. The tantalum cap is usualy highlighted in the schematics, I don't remember wich one it is, but is easy to find out

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Just a correction to the statement above:

Quote: "There's just one capacitor (one of the 10uF's) is Tantalum, the others are film capacitors."

The big polar capacitors of 10uF or more are electrolytics, except C7 that is tantalum (electrolytic here would be just as good).

Actually tantalum capacitors are the worst thing for signal (huge hysteresis) so even an electrolytic for C7 is better in that respect.

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Hm, I've never actually payed attention to capacitors, I used polypropylene capacitors, does film capacitor means polyester capacitor in this case, and does it really matter? 8)
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Polyester are the cheapest of films caps so that is what is used usually (versus polypropylene, polycarbonate or polystyrene). It does not matter that much anyway for guitar application, just take the cheapest. At least, I would avoid tantalum for sure.

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jymaze wrote:Just a correction to the statement above:

Quote: "There's just one capacitor (one of the 10uF's) is Tantalum, the others are film capacitors."

The big polar capacitors of 10uF or more are electrolytics, except C7 that is tantalum (electrolytic here would be just as good).

Actually tantalum capacitors are the worst thing for signal (huge hysteresis) so even an electrolytic for C7 is better in that respect.
I was refering to the polarized ones, now I see I didn't answered the question properly. The pF values are ceramic, the nF values are greenies and the polarized caps are eletrolytic, just C7 (as jymaze stated above) is tantalum

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Post by Branimir »

I never really payed attention to the caps, I just bought the ones that are available, okay so it's not critical to use that tantalum after all... Though I'm stupid, I have tried the V4 original and built mine and frankly, they sound the same, I just don't have them next to each other to A/B them properly.
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Just wanted to put some light on how exactly the clipping transistors and the germ. diode are connected.
I have a V4 here on my bench and I see that Source and Gate are connected together (trannies are 2n7000).
So we have S+G and D, where D corresponds to the striped end of a normal diode.

---->|---[S+G] [D]----
This represents how the germ diode and the 2n7000 are connected in series

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Intripped wrote:Just wanted to put some light on how exactly the clipping transistors and the germ. diode are connected.
I have a V4 here on my bench and I see that Source and Gate are connected together (trannies are 2n7000).
So we have S+G and D, where D corresponds to the striped end of a normal diode.

---->|---[S+G] [D]----
This represents how the germ diode and the 2n7000 are connected in series
Thanks for posting some first hand evidence on the connections.
It still seems to be widely (and wrongly IMHO) accepted that the gate is connected to the drain (as in the schematic yongki posted above), even though people have hinted otherwise earlier in this thread.
So does your OCD have the same clipping configuration as the Joyo clone's corrected circuit I posted here - the "Circuit when D2 is in the "correct" orientation"?
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You've got ---->|---[S+G] [D]---- and the corrected Joyo is electrically the same with ----[S+G] [D]---->|---
Or put another way, on the schematic yongki posted above, move the gate connections from the drains to the sources?
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howmuch wrote: So does your OCD have the same clipping configuration as the Joyo clone's corrected circuit I posted here - the "Circuit when D2 is in the "correct" orientation"?
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You've got ---->|---[S+G] [D]---- and the corrected Joyo is electrically the same with ----[S+G] [D]---->|---
Or put another way, on the schematic yongki posted above, move the gate connections from the drains to the sources?

YES to all

...and to avoid any further confusion, here is the exact clipping section:
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Post by SamBloody »

Hi guys!
Can you give me verified fulltone ocd pcb layout?
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Here's my layout.

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Post by 287m »

Nice layout David :thumbsup
perfect for 1590B

so i present to 1590A Club masochist :mrgreen:
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Thank you,guys!

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Post by V1nce69 »

Hi all,

I own an OCD #84590 with a pcb revision 1.4. Wanting to know how it works, I traced the complete pcb and made a drawing out of it. Here are a few pics and my drawing.

It might be of some interest.
OCD gutshot
OCD gutshot
OCD pcb top view
OCD pcb top view
OCD pcb bottom view
OCD pcb bottom view
OCD pcb bottom view - detail
OCD pcb bottom view - detail
OCD pcb 1.4 layout
OCD pcb 1.4 layout

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Post by Intripped »

nice work!
just a little note:
in your drawing, 2N7000 pins are named wrong

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